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Eagle Mountain “testing”

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SuzyQ, May 8, 2018.

  1. SuzyQ

    SuzyQ Hatchling

    Well support just suggested that I post these thoughts in the forum. Not that I think it will change anything but here goes. Rovio is obviously trying to figure out how to further monetize this game. They need money I get it. One of these ways is to give players different perks in Eagle Mountain. First it was certain players had gem rewards, others didn’t. Some could re enter. Some could re enter with coins. Some with gems. Now it’s this floor reward system where some people are racking up thousands of gems (because it’s an option). Some people have silver and gold tickets. I am a player that was never allowed re entry for coins or gems. I just got the side reward option but the rewards are paltry. Now I know that eagle mountain is rigged and even worse now, but how in the world is this fair that some people at least have the option to gather these rare resources when others don’t ? If they are testing why not have the various options rotate among all the players so it’s fair and treats people equally? We have back to back events with no way to replenish resources. Yet I see on Facebook that someone just won 15 silvers and 1 gold ticket in eagle mountain. I don’t have that option even if I wanted to lose some gems. I hope rovio realizes that they will never monetize their game if they treat players badly (and unequally). I know there are many examples of this bad treatment but Eagle Mountain is a glaring example.
     
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  2. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    Couldn't agree more. The entire last 6 weeks of tweaks & changes in the game are mostly ridiculous grasping at straws without thinking them through or playing them out at all first.

    If they REALLY want to beta test Eagle Mountain to see which option will generate them the most spending by players, then they should simply implement the exact same options/changes for EVERYONE. Do it for a week & then change it to a new layout & do it again the next week. Just randomly giving a few people bizarre & random changes is not enough of a sample size to tell them what they need to know...
    Honestly I don't begrudge a game for trying to make $$ but Rovio is just poorly run & not smart at all in how they are trying to go about it. The reward for money spent is just out of whack & they badly need to lower prices. Changing a daily "reward" system into a money suck for most players is ludicrous & sucks fun out of the game, turns off players & makes a lot of them quit.

    Also, it's a total joke that they keep telling us in support tickets to check out this Forum when they never bother to contribute or look at it themselves...
     
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  3. SuzyQ

    SuzyQ Hatchling

    I am pretty sure support is over run and underfunded so this is their new tactic to deal with customer complaints. Dump them in a forum where no one reads them!
     
  4. Witkacy [PL]

    Witkacy [PL] Super Cool Bird

    Suzy :)

    I can confidently tell you, gal that you're loosing not much, if anything, so you have barely nothing to regret (apart of the fact of been treated not as fair as others)...
    I DO test Eagle Mountain after the changes, just to consider that this part of gameplay (which should have been treated like something special, allowing EVERYONE to grab some fine stuff daily) is getting worse and worse to become utterly USELESS as it is right now, aside of the fact it's needed to enter to grab some diamonds from daily tasks...
    First I've got a chance to re-enter for diamonds - checked once if works - it did, so knew what I wished to know and that's it :)

    Later on got the chance to re-enter for coins - much better, still didn't want to risk far too much not having option to getting diamonds here to replenish them after eventual covering up the losses... It worked pretty fine as I was able to grab up to 6 silver tickets daily if got lucky, doing free run + re-enters, sure I've paid 20 diamonds here and there, yet this was totally acceptable, as I have seen I was gaining some PROFITS out of this...

    Now still have the option to re-enter for coins with the new floor system of rewards, but it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to win ANYTHING, without bumping on thief pig first and been forced to pay for actually NOTHING...
    This is how it goes DAILY right now: (screen off today's run)
    Screenshot_2018-05-10-05-50-10.png

    Getting the thief pig right after first, second or third door! So I am asking you all - what the hell is happening? And what's the point of further play (and pay) if I am not able to win anything anymore? PURE greed and ROBBERY - that's happening... Please take a look on the right how great rewards been offered to me and where they've been placed... They're NOT appealing to me AT ALL! Sure it would be nice to grab a silver ticket reaching 23th floor level, but HOW MANY pigs it would be needed to pass? 10? (easily assuming as first one could be right after 2nd door, the next ones could be every second door, or even more often) More? So how many gems it would be need to pay? You don't have to be math genius to figure it out that is not pays off COMPLETELY and not worth the effort at all... It's better to spend 150 diamonds and simply BUY it then...
    I've managed to reach past 22 floor ONCE - getting a pig on 19th floor (so I considered it's WORTH to take a risk and try)... Succeded with no more pigs and been granted with 2 silvers, so it's not impossible at all, yet very very unlikely to happen...
    I would be mean to say that playing the Eagle Mountain now it's a waste of time - cause it is NOT... The vast majority of my runs after the latest changes been eneded under 3 seconds... Yet for sure it's total waste of diamonds and so coins for re-entering... I do not even try to re-enter now - spare coins for prestidging my birdies...

    Sure I wasn't born yesterday and DO aware of the fact that the game has to make profits to creators and so devs, but kinda not like how the shares look now - players got barely nothing (and expected to pay for it), and the other side expects to grab huge profits for offering very very little...
    How about making ENTIRE first five floors to be free of pigs? Let's be frank - I've never was able to discover Pharaoh's treasures behind these first few doors as long as I can remember, but sure it would be SOMETHING if anyone could grab these loots FOR FREE daily... You want more? Sure, go ahead, but then you might be needed to pay for keeping what you have, that would be FAIR, cause paying 20 diamonds to keep 5 mats it's not far AT ALL and never will be to ANYONE...

    Cheers,
    W
     
  5. Epic Buttstomp

    Epic Buttstomp Tiny Birdy

    These testings so far in Eagle Mountain have landed me tens of silver tickets. I have to pay some gems to get up to 30s and 40s but what I get in return is cheaper than buying them for 150 gems each. I don't continue if I get a pig early. I won't pay unless I get at least 1 silver ticket. And I can try again paying gold coins, have many of those and get lots of them all the time.
     
  6. Guestiguess

    Guestiguess Hatchling

    I'm having the exact same problem! It's incredibly frustrating.

    It would also be nice if they were more upfront about the testing and changes. I honestly had no idea people were experiencing different versions of Eagle Mountain until I read about it in the forums.

    I'd also recommend to Rovio to poll players about the changes, like they have with the PvP rule changes.
     
  7. SuzyQ

    SuzyQ Hatchling

    This is exactly my point! I don’t have many silvers as rewards so I can’t get the same benefit as you and it’s unfair. I get that they have rigged the mountain such that you often have to pay gems but if I could get the number of tickets it might be worth it mathematically. It should be the same for all players is my ultimate point ! Witkacy you have the same paltry rewards as I do. Many folks have tons of gems or combo of silver and gold tickets!
     
  8. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    Agreed, BUT they don't do this either. Most people did not get polled at all about the Arena. From asking on this forum, I think it's less than 5% of players that did (you just happen to be one of them).

    Well, I still don't even have ANY casino rewards. Just the normal layout with coin reentry & a butt load of pigs on early floors. Averaging 2 before hitting floor 8... Just 1.5 weeks ago I could get to floor 20 with an average of 1 pig pretty consistently & on occasion I could get to floors 50-70 with only 2-4 pigs. That was fun & worthwhile. Now, it's a total joke & unplayable without the very best version of the casino available.
    I'm sure they nerfed the floors with more pigs in anticipation of the high end casino rewards which would actually be ok if we all had that same layout but most of us don't so it's ridiculously unfair & stupid as is...
     
  9. Guestiguess

    Guestiguess Hatchling

    Huh. I've been polled at least 3 times since the PVP changes started.

     
  10. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    Yes & I have been polled every week, but I asked a couple weeks ago on the forum how many people were polled as well & almost no one else got them...
     
  11. Starman.thc

    Starman.thc Tiny Birdy

    you have to understand that a VERY small percentage of players actually come to the forums, so any sample taken here would not necessarily be representative of the greater player population, so would not necessarily be of any value in determining the true scope of these surveys.
     
  12. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    Still, I am confident that less than 10% of players got polled at all. There is almost no mention of it elsewhere either...
     
  13. Andromeda

    Andromeda Hatchling

    Whatever's going on is weird.
    For a little while, I was getting to 20-30 before thief guy just about every day and always paid for a second round because recouping the gold was almost guaranteed. Eagle Mountain was actually sort of fun and a great way to pull some evolution material and maybe a silver ticket.
    Now for the past week or two I've never made it past the 2nd or 3rd door before thief time. No, I don't care much about my 10 evo material enough to keep playing. It's super obvious it doesn't matter which door I select. I haven't made it to the fifth door in a while now. It's intentional, irritating, and I'm most certainly not giving Rovio a dime to keep getting 2nd door thieves. I'm tired of being a test.
     
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  14. Epic Buttstomp

    Epic Buttstomp Tiny Birdy

    All these testing I now have 71 silver tickets and 3 gold tickets from it. Well stocked for next week. Hopefully Chuck is next, I can use up to 3 more for some ridiculous team.
     
  15. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    I seriously doubt Chuck will be next week.
     
  16. RemixFTW

    RemixFTW The Best Mod

    Oh wow now they’re using elite Matilda as bait so people can spend even more money in attempts to reach floor 70.
     
  17. Tigerangels42038

    Tigerangels42038 Tiny Birdy

    chuck wont be next week, he will be next core event bird but they have never run one core event after another
     
  18. Epic Buttstomp

    Epic Buttstomp Tiny Birdy

    Too early for basketball bird considering NBA final is more than 2 weeks away.

    Before this Red event was Terence event. Matilda was just before that.

    Someone else guess on what is next event.
    https://forum.angrybirds.com/threads/any-intel-on-upcoming-events.8080/page-2#post-31802

    BTW. No more bonus items for me tonight.
     
  19. A. Wolf

    A. Wolf Super Cool Bird

    Nope, there was 1 other event between each of the last 3 core birds...
     
  20. Tigerangels42038

    Tigerangels42038 Tiny Birdy

    Terrence, El Jefe, then Red, but i will give u Matilda was just before Terrence but most likely that was because they wanted to sandwich in Terence before El Jefe to sell his leadership ability with heavy birds. Ive read the thread you posted, he says chuck will be the next core bird, which i agree with as its the same order as they have went before, and soon doesnt mean next week, he will be soon but highly unlikely to be next week. If he is, fair enough, im just pointing out Rovio's usual patterns
     

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